BAIRI // GET TO KNOW (Q&A)

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EJ SAFTNER: ALL RIGHT. ONE OF MY FAVORITE CONCEPTS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP IN THE INTERVIEW I MOST RECENTLY LISTENED TO IS WHEN YOU SAID ARTISTS ARE WORTH HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH WHEN MUSIC IS NOT INVOLVED. SO TELL ME ABOUT THE TIME YOU FIND FOR YOURSELF AMIDST KIND OF THE CHAOS OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY? AND WHAT YOU DO TO NURTURE WHO YOU ARE AS A HUMAN BEING FIRST?

BAIRI: IT’S FUNNY BECAUSE THIS IS A LONGER STORY THAN YOU PROBABLY EVEN THOUGHT THIS QUESTION WAS GOING TO PERMIT. BUT UM, I, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS WHEN THE PANDEMIC STARTED, I WAS JUST IN THE STUDIO AND THAT WAS LIKE, MY 10,000 HOURS, AND I’M STILL PUTTING THEM IN, BUT IT WAS VERY HEAVY IN 2020. AND AFTER THAT, I WENT ON THE ROAD ALL YEAR LAST YEAR. AND DURING THAT, I WAS DOING THE BIGGEST MUSIC VIDEO OF MY LIFE, DROPPING THE BIGGEST SONG THAT I’VE DONE SO FAR, AND STILL RECORDING. STILL JUST FOCUSING ON THAT. I STARTED FEELING THE EFFECTS OF IT NEARING THE END OF LAST YEAR, BUT THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, BEING IN NASHVILLE, AND WANTING TO SETTLE DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT STILL NOT FEELING LIKE I CAN, BECAUSE I WAS… I’M IN SUCH A PERIOD OF EVERYBODY’S “OH, ALL THE EYES ARE ON BAIRI, WHAT IS BAIRI GONNA DO?” SO I FELT A LOT OF PRESSURE. I HAVE TO KEEP DROPPING, I GOTTA KEEP DOING THINGS, I HAVE TO FINISH THE ALBUM. AND IT JUST WASN’T WORKING, NOTHING WAS WORKING. AND EVERY TIME SOMETHING WOULD FAIL, I WOULD JUST FEEL WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE, TO A POINT WHERE MY TEAM WAS LIKE, “YOU HAVE TO DROP EVERY SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS.” AND I WAS JUST LIKE, HONESTLY, FUCK EVERYBODY. I’M NOT DROPPING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. AND I DIDN’T EVEN KNOW, IN HINDSIGHT, THAT WAS PROBABLY LIKE FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AGO. YEAH, IT WAS LIKE JANUARY. I JUST TOLD EVERYBODY HONESTLY, LIKE, “NO.” I STARTED FEELING REALLY BAD.

JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, I DROPPED THE BOUNDARIES OF REMIXES. AND THAT’S PROBABLY WHEN I WAS AT PEAK DEPRESSION, TRYING TO CATCH UP AND MEET GOALS THAT I HADN’T NECESSARILY SET FOR MYSELF, EVEN THOUGH I, YOU KNOW, ALLOWED IT BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT’S WHAT I HAD TO DO TO KEEP THE ATTENTION OF ALL THE DSPS AND JUST THE EYES OF EVERYONE. SO IT WAS IN MARCH, I WOULD SAY THAT I TOLD EVERYBODY, “HEY, WE HAVE TO NOT GO BY THIS CALENDAR ANYMORE. I DON’T KNOW WHAT CALENDAR WE’RE GOING BY, BUT IT’S JUST NOT HAPPENING ANYMORE.” AND I REALIZED IN THAT TIME, IN A MONTH, HOW FUCKED UP I ACTUALLY WAS. I WAS VERY DEPRESSED. I WAS VERY UNKNOWING ABOUT WHO I WAS AS A PERSON. BECAUSE EVEN BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, I WAS JUST A SERVER AND TRYING TO DO MUSIC AND TRYING TO PLEASE EVERYBODY. AND I WAS LIKE, “DAMN, WHO AM I NOW?” I LIKE REARRANGED MY APARTMENT A FEW TIMES… I JUST DID SO MUCH TO TRY TO FIGURE MY LIFE OUT. AND WHAT WOULD MAKE ME HAPPY. I SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TRYING TO PUT THE HOUSE TOGETHER, SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON BOOKS, TOO. AND THAT’S WHEN I REALIZED, LIKE, WOW, I STARTED AS A LIT MAJOR IN COLLEGE, AND I HATED IT. AND I REALLY DO LOVE READING. I’D LOVE LEARNING. AND THAT KIND OF CLICKED AND I’M LIKE, “WOW, I CAN’T FINISH THIS ALBUM. BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW MYSELF.” LIKE, I CAN’T DO WHAT I NEED TO DO BECAUSE I DON’T FEEL CONFIDENT IN THE TRACKLIST, I DON’T FEEL CONFIDENT IN HALF OF THE WORDS THAT I’M SAYING BECAUSE THEY DON’T MAKE SENSE TO ME. THAT DOESN’T MEAN THEY NEVER MADE SENSE. IT’S NOT THAT THEY DON’T MAKE SENSE TO ME ANYMORE BECAUSE EVOLUTION IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND I NEED TO BE OKAY WITH THAT.

I’M IN THE PROCESS OF FINDING THE ROOTS OF MY PROJECT RIGHT NOW AND I DON’T WANT TO MAKE ANY MOVES AT ALL. AND AS NERVE-RACKING AS THAT KIND OF IS, MY GUESS IS IT’S MY EGO THAT IT’S FEEDING. I DON’T CARE TO PLEASE OTHER PEOPLE IF I CAN’T PLEASE MYSELF. AND I WOULDN’T WANT ANYBODY YOU KNOW, COMING UP AFTER ME TO DO THAT EITHER BECAUSE THE ARTIST… IF THE ARTIST IS NOT OKAY, THEN THE ART IS NOT OKAY. THIS PERIOD, IT’S TAINTED, AND THE ART DESERVES TO FLOURISH IN THE WAY THAT THE ARTIST IS CREATING IT. SO RIGHT NOW, I AM STILL READING A LOT, I’M FILLING MY TIME WITH LIFE AND PEOPLE AND THINGS TO GET INSPIRED BY STILL, AND FIGURING OUT THE PROJECT. AND I CAN’T GIVE A DATE OR ANYTHING, BECAUSE THEN I WOULD JUST BE STUPID. I’VE DONE THAT BEFORE. BUT UM, IT’S A GREAT PROCESS NOW, BECAUSE I’VE REMOVED THE CHAINS OF ANTICIPATION ON MYSELF. SO YEAH, THAT’S IT.

EJ: SO YOU ARE AN AVID READER. TELL ME ABOUT ONE BOOK YOU HAVE READ RECENTLY, SOMETHING THAT IGNITED YOUR SPIRITUAL AND INTELLECTUAL SPIRIT?

BAIRI: GEEZ. WELL, I HAVE THE BOOK. THERE IS THIS BOOK CALLED, “THE WAY OF INTEGRITY,” BY MARTHA BECK. SO, SOMETHING THAT I’M ALSO VERY INTO IS JUST HEALTH, SELF-HELP, AND MENTAL HEALTH AND SPIRITUAL HEALTH SPECIFICALLY, BUT JUST ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN MY SHIT FOR THE PAST, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY LIKE SIX MONTHS.

JAY SHETTY’S PODCAST IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. NUMBER ONE SELF-HELP PODCAST. AND HE SPOKE TO THIS WOMAN, HER NAME IS MARTHA BECK. AND SHE’S LIKE AN OLDER WHITE WOMAN. BUT SHE WAS TALKING AND I WAS LIKE, “WAIT, SHE’S WRITTEN TO ME,” LIKE, I FELT IT. I FELT IT IN MY SOUL, LIKE, IN WAYS THAT I DIDN’T REALLY FEEL IN OTHER INTERVIEWS, EVEN THOUGH I ENJOY EVERY SINGLE ONE THAT HE DOES. AND THEN SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT HERSELF AT THE END OF THE PODCAST. AND SHE WAS LIKE, “YEAH, I LIVE IN PENNSYLVANIA NOW.” AND I SAID, “WAIT, HOLD ON.” AND THEN LIKE, I LOOKED UP HER BIRTHDAY, AND SHE’S A SAGITTARIUS. AND I’M SAGITTARIUS. AND I WAS LIKE, “HOLD ON, LIKE, THIS IS JUST WEIRD,” AND THE REASON WHY SHE WAS ON THE PODCAST WAS TO PROMOTE THIS BOOK, “THE WAY OF INTEGRITY.” AND SO I COPPED THE AUDIOBOOK AS SOON AS I WAS DONE WITH HER INTERVIEW. THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST BOOKS THAT KIND OF TRIGGERED ME TO GET A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER BOOKS. BUT, IT’S ABOUT THE FACT THAT INTEGRITY IS SUCH A WEIRD WORD IN OUR CULTURE BECAUSE IT’S LOOSELY USED. BUT INTEGRITY MEANS BEING ONE BEING WHOLE, AND NOT COMPROMISING. YOU KNOW, IT’S JUST BEING WHO YOU FULLY ARE. AND SHE JUST GOES INTO TALKING ABOUT “DANTE’S INFERNO,” THAT’S WHAT SHE REFERENCES A LOT IN THE BOOK, AND TALKS ABOUT HER STRUGGLES IN LIFE AND HOW CULTURE IS THE OPPOSITE OF NATURE. AND WHEN YOU START TO FOLLOW YOUR TRUE NATURE, CULTURE STARTS TO, FIRST OF ALL, GET THREATENED, AND THEN, SECOND OF ALL, SHIFT. SO I THINK THAT’S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I’VE ADOPTED THIS. LISTEN, NOBODY’S GONNA FUCKING TELL ME WHAT TO DO. BECAUSE THIS IS MY ART, AND THE INDUSTRY SHOULD BE BOWING TO THE ARTISTS. IT SHOULDN’T BE ALL THE WAY AROUND, BECAUSE THAT’S HOW I TRULY FEEL. AND YES, IT IS A FUCKING INCREDIBLE BOOK. I GOT THE AUDIOBOOK AND THEN I GOT THE BOOK ON AMAZON. AND I’VE REFERENCED BOTH MULTIPLE TIMES. AND I WOULD SAY, OVER LIKE, 10 TIMES IN THE PAST TWO MONTHS. SO YES, “THE WAY OF INTEGRITY,” BY MARTHA BECK.

I’LL HAVE A DIFFERENT ANSWER FOR YOU IN LIKE TWO MONTHS.

EJ: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY ADMIRE ABOUT YOU IS THE FACT THAT YOU’RE SO OPEN ABOUT YOUR EVOLUTION AS AN ARTIST. YOU DIDN’T START OUT, YOU KNOW, AS THE NUMBER ONE EVERYWHERE. THERE’S ALWAYS GROWTH AND THE FACT THAT YOU CAN JUST ADMIT IT BECAUSE IT’S NOT A NEGATIVE THING. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE IT. AND IT’S SO IMPORTANT IN YOUR MUSIC. HOW HAS THAT NATURAL, INTUITIVE, INTENTIONAL, EXPERIMENTAL ASPECT OF YOURSELF LEAD TO YOUR PRODUCTION AND YOUR VOCAL STYLES? HOW HAS THAT MINDSET SHIFTED SINCE YOUR PREVIOUS RELEASES? HOW DO YOU GO INTO A PROJECT?

BAIRI: IT’S SO HARD BECAUSE I LITERALLY HAVEN’T DROPPED A PROJECT. TECHNICALLY, I HAVEN’T DROPPED A PROJECT YET. SO UNDER MY FIRST NAME, FIRST, WELL, ONE OF MY FIRST NAMES, THERE’S A BUNCH OF FIRST NAMES IN THE FIRST LITTLE PART OF MY LIFE. I DROPPED THIS LITTLE EP IN 2016. THAT’S WHEN I FIRST DECIDED THAT I WAS JUST GOING TO LIKE, I QUIT, I WAS A MARKETING COORDINATOR AT A LABEL. AND I QUIT THE MARKETING JOB. AND I WAS JUST LIKE, “THIS DOESN’T FEEL RIGHT.” SO ME BEING ME, I’M QUIT THE JOB. AND LIKE, DROPPED THIS LITTLE EP IN 2016. NO CLUE WHAT I WAS DOING. BUT I JUST KNEW THAT I LOVE TO SING. I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH EVERYBODY. I CAN’T EVEN LISTEN TO THAT MUSIC ANYMORE. BUT I UNDERSTAND LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR HAVE TO GROW, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO START. IT WAS DECEMBER 2016. MY BIRTHDAY. AND SINCE THEN, I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PUSH MYSELF TO DROP ANOTHER PROJECT, [BUT] I HAD NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT I WAS DOING. BUT EVERY SO OFTEN, I WOULD DROP A LITTLE, A LITTLE SONG HERE OR THERE.

ANOTHER THING WAS I WAS REALLY INSPIRED BY FRANK, BEYONCE, AND THE WEEKND AT THAT TIME. THE WEEKND’S FEATURE RUN AROUND THAT TIME WAS SO INCREDIBLE TO ME. I WAS LIKE, “OH, MY GOD, ONE DAY, I WANT TO BE THE QUEEN OF FEATURES.” SO AFTER I DROPPED THAT LITTLE PROJECT, I WAS LIKE, I NEED TO FIND ALL THE RAPPERS ON CAMPUS AND I NEED TO DO EVERYBODY’S FEATURE. I NEED TO WRITE STUFF. THAT’S WHAT I WAS REALLY GETTING INTO, WRITING AVIDLY. AND, YEAH, NEVER DROPPED A PROJECT. AND MY FRIEND, SHE WAS MY MANAGER FOR BIT, BUT IT JUST DIDN’T WORK OUT. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE BOTH KIND OF REALIZED THAT I WASN’T READY FOR THAT. AND SHE ALSO HAD TO FIGURE STUFF OUT. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS THE BELIEF OF OTHER PEOPLE TO KIND OF BE LIKE, “KEEP JUST KEEP DOING IT, LIKE KEEP RECORDING, KEEP FIGURING STUFF OUT.”

THEN DURING THE PANDEMIC, I THINK, IS WHEN I REALLY PUSHED MYSELF THE MOST BECAUSE THERE WAS A POINT WHERE I FELT REALLY HOPELESS. BECAUSE I COULDN’T WRITE. I WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT BLACK LIVES MATTER. AND JUST LIKE, I FELT LIKE I COULDN’T DO ANYTHING, YOU KNOW? THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON IN MY PERSONAL LIFE, TOO. THAT’S WHEN ONE DAY DURING YOGA, FRANK CAME IN MY HEAD, AND IT WAS “PINK AND WHITE.” SO THAT’S WHEN I DID MY COVER. ALSO, SOMEBODY TOLD ME, OR I SAW ON AN INTERVIEW THAT IT WAS LIKE, “OH, IF YOU WANT TO BE BETTER, THEN STUDY THE GREATS. STUDY PEOPLE THAT YOU LOOK UP TO, OR, YOU KNOW, TRY TO EMULATE THEM IN SOME WAY.” SO I DID THE COVER TO REALLY PUSH MYSELF TO SEE HOW MUCH I WAS LIKE FRANK, HOW DIFFERENT I WAS, AND HOW I COULD TURN IT INTO MY OWN THING. THAT’S WHEN I MADE IT INTO AN ACAPELLA AND JUST USED MY VOICE. THAT’S WHEN I REALIZED LIKE, YOU KNOW, I’VE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A PRODUCER. I USED TO PLAY KEYS, BUT I FORGOT WHEN I STARTED TO WORRY ABOUT BOYS IN SCHOOL. I WAS LIKE, I CAN STILL KIND OF BE A PRODUCER WITH MY VOICE. THAT’S THE TOOL THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW. SO THAT I THINK WAS THE BIGGEST EYE-OPENING THING TO ME BECAUSE BEFORE THAT I WASN’T DOING ALL THOSE CRAZY HARMONIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND NOW THAT’S MY BREAD AND BUTTER, JUST LYRICISM AND REALLY CRAZY HARMONIES.

SO THAT’S WHAT I REALLY PUSHED INTO… LYRICISM AND INTRICATE HARMONIES. NOW, I’M AT THIS POINT WHERE I WANT MY MAIN VOCAL TO BE AS POTENT, LIKE, I WANT TO HIT PEOPLE AS HARD SO I CAN HAVE A COHESIVE EXPERIENCE. BEING AN EXPERIENCE IS WHAT I’M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT. NOT A GENRE, NOT A VIBE, I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO BE IMMERSED IN THIS THING AND GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT.

EJ: YOUR VISUAL AND LIVE PERFORMANCES ARE SO STUNNING, BUT THEY’RE ALSO SO PURELY HUMAN. YOU’RE REALLY SO INTENTIONAL WITH THE DETAILS OF BOTH YOUR, YOU KNOW, SONIC STYLE, BUT ALSO VISUAL PERFORMANCE, VISUAL AIDS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. HOW DO YOU INCORPORATE YOUR SPIRITUAL AND EMOTIONAL MATURITY INTO THOSE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF YOUR ARTISTRY?

BAIRI: I DON’T THINK I’VE DONE IT YET. YOU KNOW, LIKE, WE HAVEN’T DROPPED THE “PARAISO” MUSIC VIDEO JUST YET. WE DID A SOFT, WE DID A SOFT DROP. BUT I’M TRYING TO BE REALLY INTENTIONAL WITH THAT, TOO, AND NOT JUST LET THINGS INTO THE WORLD THAT COULD GET MISSED. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST STARTED WORKING ON THAT MUSIC VIDEO, MY CREATIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE VIDEO DID A READING ON ME BEFORE SHE EVEN ASKED ME WHAT I WANTED FOR THE MUSIC VIDEOS. SHE HEARD THE SONG, AND SHE DID A READING ON ME. AND SHE SAID, “I’M GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT YOURSELF. AND THEN I’M GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE MUSIC VIDEO THAT I HAVE IN MIND.” SHE READ ME TO A TEE. AND THEN SHE TOLD ME BACK THE MUSIC VIDEO THAT I HAD ALREADY PLANNED. IT WAS TOUCHING ON, YOU KNOW, ME BEING THIS LIGHT BUT HAVING THIS DARKNESS WITHIN ME AND HAVING TO FACE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND EVEN WRITING ABOUT IT. SO EVEN IN DOING THE MUSIC VIDEO, I THOUGHT, “YEAH, I HAVE, I AM CELEBRATING MYSELF BECAUSE I’VE DONE MY SPIRITUAL JOURNEY.

I WAS WRONG, IT WAS ALMOST FUNNY BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT I WAS CELEBRATING WHAT I HAD ALREADY DONE. BUT I FEEL LIKE I MANIFESTED AN EVEN DEEPER, INTENSE JOURNEY. SO I HAVEN’T REALLY DROPPED MUCH SINCE THEN. I’VE DONE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE DROPS ON AUDIOMACK. AND “SPRING CLEANING.” “SPRING CLEANING” IS VERY PERSONAL TO ME. AND I HAVEN’T DONE A VIDEO FOR THAT. I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT IT RECENTLY, EVEN THOUGH IT DROPPED TWO MONTHS AGO. I’M LIKE, “FUCK IT.” LIKE, IF THE ART IS TIMELESS, THEN LET IT BE TIMELESS AND LET ME HAVE FUN WITH IT.

NOW BECAUSE I’VE DONE ALL OF THIS SPIRITUAL WORK BY MYSELF, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I DIDN’T HAVE LOTTIE, YOU KNOW, I DIDN’T HAVE MY CREATIVE DIRECTOR. I JUST HAD MYSELF AND BOOKS AND THERAPY AND MY INTUITIVENESS, WHICH I’LL SAY IS PRETTY DAMN GREAT. YOU KNOW, I’M NOT PERFECT, BUT THAT’S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I CAN REALLY, YOU KNOW, BE THANKFUL FOR THAT I HAVE. AND HONESTLY, I HAD THERAPY TODAY. AND MY THERAPIST WAS LIKE, “WOW, LIKE YOU JUST LIKE, HOW DID YOU DO ALL THIS?” I THINK NOW IT’S LIKE I HAVE THAT CONFIDENCE OF TRANSLATING. SO, THE MUSIC… I WAS JUST TELLING. I WAS JUST TELLING BAYLEE THAT THIS MUSIC IS THE LEAST IMPORTANT PART AT THIS POINT. BECAUSE I HAVE SONGS WRITTEN, THEY JUST NEED TO GET FINISHED. I HAVE CONCEPTS BUT NOW IT’S LIKE, “OKAY, HOW MUCH MORE ART CAN WE PUT INTO THIS FOR PEOPLE TO IDENTIFY WITH?”

I WANTED TO ALWAYS BE LIKE A PSYCH MAJOR OF SOME SORT OR DO MUSIC THERAPY… I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE LIKE A MASSAGE THERAPIST. BUT JUST ANY TYPE OF THERAPY, LIKE ART THERAPY. AND THAT NEVER WORKED BECAUSE I WAS TERRIBLE AT MUSIC THEORY. SO QUIT THAT AND GRADUATED WITH ARTS MANAGEMENT SLASH MARKETING. BUT I’M OUT. I AM REALIZING NOW HOW IMPORTANT THERAPY IS TO ME IS AND JUST REALLY KNOWING MYSELF. SO, WHAT I’M DOING NOW IS TALKING TO MY GRAPHIC DESIGNER, I’M TALKING TO MY A&R. AND WE’RE REALLY GETTING DEEP, VERY, VERY, VERY DEEP INTO IT SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THE INTENTION AT ITS CORE, AND CAN MOVE ACCORDINGLY. LIKE DO THE RESEARCH, NOT JUST, “OH, THE MUSIC SOUNDS LIKE THIS, SO WE’RE GOING TO DO THIS.” NO, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE’RE TALKING ABOUT EDM, OUR, I THINK THAT’S WHAT IT WAS CALLED. I JUST LOOKED IT UP TWO DAYS AGO, AND I’M JUST PICKING OUT EDM ART, IT’S LIKE THOUGHT PROCESSING THROUGH ART AND THROUGH VISUALS. AND IT’S LIKE TRAUMA RESPONSE. SO THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING TO MY GRAPHIC DESIGNER ABOUT. AND FIGURING OUT ALL THESE PIECES, PEOPLE MIGHT NOT GET IT UPFRONT. I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE PROJECT’S GONNA LOOK LIKE, HOW MANY PROJECTS IT IS GOING TO BE, BUT I JUST KNOW THAT I WANT EVERY PIECE OF ART TO KIND OF DO THE THERAPY THING. BUT NOT ONLY THAT, I LOVE VIDEO GAMES. I’M FINDING THE PATTERNS IN EVERYTHING. I LOVE VIDEO GAMES. I LOVE READING, I LOVE THERAPY AND PSYCH WORK. SO MAKING SURE THAT I CAN TIE ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN, IN A WAY THAT ISN’T JUST ME, BUT IT’S ABLE TO BE TRANSLATED TO THE WORLD.

EJ: IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I DIDN’T ASK YOU RIGHT NOW, THAT IS EITHER ABOUT YOUR ART OR SOMETHING THAT IS JUST IMPORTANT TO YOU AS A HUMAN BEING, THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO THROW OUT INTO THE WORLD AND TALK ABOUT?

BAIRI: I LOVE THIS QUESTION. I FEEL LIKE IT IS INFINITE AND I DON’T WANT TO THINK TOO HARD ABOUT IT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT MY INTENTION IS JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU DON’T HAVE TO SUFFER. I THINK WE EVOLVED A LOT, AS WE’VE EVOLVED A LOT IN HUMANITY, EVEN FROM OUR PARENTS OR FROM OUR GRANDPARENTS TO US. [FROM] WHAT I’VE SEEN, WE’VE EVOLVED SO MUCH. IT’S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT. I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT YOU DON’T HAVE TO SUFFER TO DO WHAT YOU LOVE.

WHAT I’VE REALLY BEEN LEARNING ABOUT MYSELF IS THAT I ONLY SUFFER WHEN I’M DOING ANYTHING THAT I DON’T LIKE, YOU KNOW. I WROTE “SPRING CLEANING.” I DROPPED IT THE FIRST DAY OF SPRING. IT’S LIKE IT USED TO BE A PART OF LIKE, MY PERSONAL BRANDING. LIKE, “OH, BRI, SHE’S ALWAYS CLEANING. LIKE SHE’S JUST ALWAYS CLEANING. SHE LOVES CLEANING.” AND I’VE REALIZED IN THE SPIRITUAL SHIT, I DON’T FUCKING LOVE CLEANING. IT’S JUST SO CRAZY THAT I LEARNED IT AMONGST DROPPING “SPRING CLEANING,” BECAUSE IT WASN’T ACTUALLY ABOUT CLEANING. OBVIOUSLY. IT’S ABOUT SPRING CLEANING THE SOUL. GETTING RID OF SOUL TIES THAT DON’T SERVE YOU AND JUST CLEANING OUT, LIKE CLEANSING EVERYTHING THAT DOESN’T SERVE YOU SO THAT YOU HAVE ROOM FOR MORE. WHAT I’VE REALIZED IS THAT I LIKE ORGANIZATION, I LIKE PATTERN FORMING. I THINK THAT’S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW YOURSELF AND JUST FIGURE OUT THE PATTERNS OF EVERYTHING. BUT I DON’T LOVE CLEANING… I ACTUALLY FUCKING HATE CLEANING. I HAD ALMOST HAD A BREAKDOWN IN COLLEGE BECAUSE MY ROOMMATES WERE SO MESSY, AND I WASN’T, AND THEY WERE… AND IT’S OKAY. THEY WERE MESSY. YOU KNOW, LIKE, THEY HAD OTHER, BETTER THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT. AND I DID TOO, BUT IT STILL UPSET ME BECAUSE I FELT LIKE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAD LEARNED FROM MY PARENTS THAT LIKE, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE CLEAN, OR IT’S TERRIBLE. AND NOW IT’S LIKE, OKAY, WHENEVER I CLEAN I’M LIKE, “OH MY GOD, THIS IS LIKE TORTURE.” AND I’M REALIZING LIKE, “OKAY, SO HIRE SOMEBODY TO CLEAN FOR YOU SO THAT YOU HAVE THE TIME AND ENERGY TO PUT IN WHERE YOU NEED TO DO FOR YOUR MUSIC, FOR YOUR ART, FOR YOUR HEALING.” AND I KNOW SOUNDS THAT MIGHT SOUND PRETENTIOUS, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT HERE THAT LOVE CLEANING. SO LET THEM LOVE CLEANING AND DO THEIR BUSINESS HOW THEY WANT AND THEN I’LL DO MY BUSINESS HOW I WANT AND NEED TO. SO YEAH, DO NOT SUFFER. KNOW YOURSELF. FIND YOURSELF AND MAKE SURE YOU TAKE TIME FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR HEALTH BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT IS GOING TO BE IN THE WORLD. YOU KNOW, THAT’S WHAT YOU’RE GONNA GIVE TO THE WORLD. SO YEAH, I LOVE IT.